Episode 138: More Grey

3:14 – Portland Podcast Festival

9:00 – Mediocre is the worst

16:05 – Lonzo/Lakers still not hot

20:20 – Carmelo never helps

22:30 – Let go, Sonics fans

26:30 – 50 makes you a god

29:00 – F the Hate Train

43:05 – Butler shakes up the East

50:30 – More grey

1:00:30 – East West Matchup of the Week

Episode 137: Defense is Dead

1:59 - Detroit has crashed back to Earth
5:54 - Dre can't win
29:30 - Who's going to drop off?
35:50 - The Knicks are hopeless
42:00 - Defense is dead
53:30 - All Kielen wants is…
55:06 - Playing it safe
58:17 - Butler still owning the Wolves
1:02:25 - Cleveland sucks
1:06:35 - East West Matchup of the Week

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